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hey everyone welcome to the off hub live

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stream today's guest is going to be

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gerard artsen and he's talking to me

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live from the netherlands that's why we

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kind of had to shift around the days a

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usually i'm doing interviews on fridays

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but i was more than happy to make this

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partly because i believe it was his

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agent or publicist i'm not exactly sure

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what the relationship is had initially

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sent me an email about four years ago

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and i wasn't doing this alive then it

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was mainly in person and

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i just put it to the side to get back to

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it later sure enough four years later

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here we are so i'm glad it all worked

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out uh so uh later on we might have some

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time for q a i'm going to have gerard on

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for about an hour he said it's okay if

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we go a little bit over depending on how

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many questions might come in uh if you

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would like to ask them a question

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directly you can ask using telegram

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there's a live stream or a voice chat

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live right now because it's streaming on

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youtube and twitch via video and audio

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and voice only on telegram and when the

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time comes you can simply join the group

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and raise your hand to ask a question

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until we get to that point you might not

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have telegram so make sure you download

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it either on your phone or the computer

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but the link for the ufo hub group is in

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the description below and that there's

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voice chat going there right now which

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you can join so also in the description

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as i always do with all the guests

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gerrard's links to all his books i

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believe the translate in english and so

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uh i always encourage people to check

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so without any further ado

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gerard and so gerard thanks for being on

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how are you

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hi adam thanks for for having me in for

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uh for uh um switching your uh your

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usual days to uh to today so uh i can

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make it on your program

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i appreciate it

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oh no problem i'm glad we're able to to

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work this out and um so

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basically let's uh let's kind of start

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i would like to always ask him about

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what gotham initially started what got

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him into whatever field there happened

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and so if you could give us a little bit

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of background information about you and

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it's uh it it's it's a

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of a lengthy introduction but it it all

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on a on an overland trip with two

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friends from amsterdam where you know

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we lived in a village not far from

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amsterdam overland trip to india which

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the russian invasion of afghanistan

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book by eric vondenke the swiss

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researcher who brought to light many

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from around the world on which the

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you know the popular tv series ancient

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astronauts is based

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fascinating i bought about

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in the end i was traveling with about 13

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it so happened that while we were in

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where i spent two months and there were

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other travelers from other countries and

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of stuff so we talked a lot while we

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were there met up again on our way back

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called the yoga of wisdom

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and at the time i wasn't you know i

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didn't go to india to find enlightenment

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or guru or anything like like many other

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of extraterrestrial visitors really

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read george adamski's book

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speak a word for the whole i didn't even

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and i asked them why what what's the

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matter what happened

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they said you didn't say a word

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yesterday um you know so it was so

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letter about it to to friends at home

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um and and the book that i was led by my

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preparing humanity for this

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who basically say very much the same

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thing that the aegis wisdom teachings

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have been have been imparting uh since

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they were reintroduced to the world in

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the late 19th century

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and we have uh

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the accounts of the uh of the

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original contactees and many later

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state that life is about the evolution

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of consciousness or or

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life is universal and it manifests

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through

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um

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through the uh

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the evolution of consciousness

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and

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for me the um you know going back to to

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your question

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what triggered me i've been so involved

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in in the work of

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preparing the world

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for the

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with the information that the masters

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the

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world

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um

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that

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when i

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learned i don't know if you're familiar

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with george adamski but you know his

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most famous books well-known books are

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flying sources have landed 1953 inside

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the spaceships 1955 and flying sources

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farewell 1961

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but he wrote much more

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and

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his very first book

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1932 i recently discovered a few years

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ago but until that time

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his um his book from 1936 the

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wisdom of the masters of the far east

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was considered his first book and when i

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got hold of that

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it

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teachings that i'd been studying you

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know the

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books by madame blavatsky and ellis

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bailey and benjamin graham

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and when i saw that connection

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i started

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delving deeper and deeper into the

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accounts of the original contactees

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especially when i saw there were so many

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correspondences in their accounts

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so i'm sorry for the for the lengthy

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for the lengthy uh

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introduction but that's really how um

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how i started

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to um yeah to become involved in this in

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this field

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no that's quite a right the more details

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are better especially if if not for

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anyone else than for uh selfish

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reasons for myself since again this is

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the very first time that we are speaking

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together so i wanted to ask you about

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regarding these original 1950s

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contactees

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would it be safe to say that it was kind

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of this assumption by these

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um

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different beings that initially

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abducted contacted these different

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you know human beings that they thought

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that if we convey this message to them

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that this will go out to the world and

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then everyone else will kind of sit down

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and take this into consideration or what

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is the what was the original thought was

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was there any

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was there a differentiation between any

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of these people were they whether

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um i guess

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were they more well-known people were

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they just average uh joe's as we call it

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here in america uh what is you know do

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you have any information regarding that

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and what what

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if there is a a kind of a conclusion or

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a purpose to be drawn from that which is

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is that what they meant for them to just

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go out and talk to everyone else on the

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planet about them

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right yes um well we have to we have to

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remember the context in which the

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original contacts happened

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and the context was of course the cold

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war there was a cold war waging

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the second world war ended of course in

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1945 with the victory of the allied

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forces

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defeating the nazis in germany the

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militarists in japan and the fascists in

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italy

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and

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[Music]

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the

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you know

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partnering with with the soviet union

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but soon after the end of the second

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world war

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started to compete uh for the for global

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influence for um

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uh yeah the the uh the power you know

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dividing the world in power blocks uh so

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we had the east bloc the eastern block

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ruled

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under control of the soviet union and

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the western bloc

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under control of the united states and

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nato

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and

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this was a dangerous division of course

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because uh we had just we humanity had

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just invented the uh the atom ball the

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hydrogen bomb was in development

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um and um this has the potential still

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now today

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of destroying our world that we you know

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that we live on that

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that is our home

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and if we destroy our planet that will

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have severe severe severe effects on on

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the solar system as a whole now we tend

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to think of of earth as this planet that

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is fortunate enough to have

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to have spawned life as we know it uh

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which we haven't been able to find

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anywhere else in the universe

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but

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to

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from other planets we are an integral

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part of the social system and

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the solar system so

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and

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that is

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what they came to

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tell us through

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people like george adamski truman

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bathroom

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buck nelson howard manager and and

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various various others the ones i just

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mentioned are all from the united states

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but there were others in brazil and in

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europe and other parts of the world

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and these were

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what you what you would call indeed

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average joes in general people with no

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particular

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social standing rather

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simple in the sense of you know

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little

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uh

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formal education

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for a specific reason

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if they had been

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the president of the united states or

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the queen of england or the pope of the

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catholic church

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people might have believed them based on

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their on their uh

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position in life

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their their

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their

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status

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um

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the prime directive you know to borrow

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the term from from the star trek uh

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series

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um that

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you know our free will is sacrosanct for

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not only the masters of wisdom

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to impart on us the spiritual facts of

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life through their work

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uh and but uh it's also sacrosanct for

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the for the uh extraterrestrial visitors

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that come here and they came in

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on the wake of the first explosions and

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tests of the atom bombs

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to warn humanity

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for the dangers of the dangers of these

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new

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means of mass destruction

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and and they came to

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to

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influence and so

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you know it's

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the you you mention the word abductions

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but i i uh

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i take offense

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because

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um

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there were no abductions there was there

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were no accounts of abductions among the

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original contactees

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there were the first case

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uh recorded case of of uh documented

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case documented a reported case of an

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abduction was in 1961

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betty and barney hill caves

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and

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we must remember that

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the

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drew

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more and more interest from the people

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who were war wary they were

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people were living at the time in the

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1950s under the palpable threat of

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nuclear annihilation you know

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the

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or or worse uh sending um

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atom bombs to destroy our western

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civilization and the same fear of course

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uh

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existed on the on the other side of the

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divide in in the soviet union and in

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those

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satellite states

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um

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so

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people were we were living under the

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psychological threat of nuclear

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annihilation and

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the uh the visitors the space visitors

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they came to

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to

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encourage

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and and

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inspire people with common people with

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the

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necessity for international cooperation

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to solve our to settle our problems

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rather than through conflict

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um

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know there was a growing uh group that

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was benji

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i mean george adamski

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gave a talk after his first book had

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been published

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he gave a talk in detroit in 1954 that

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drew 4

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700 people

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um you know and and

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naturally that

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got the authorities worried governments

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and military because

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for the

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expenditure the massive expenditure on

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nuclear weapons the government depends

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on the public's the public's support and

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if the public

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support would be diminishing would be

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waning

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for the military

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expenditure um you know that would

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that would mean they

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would feel weakened

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in the face of the soviet threat

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and vice versa

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so

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the the answer from

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the government military maybe some shady

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agencies in the government was to

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cause confusion

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among the public uh caused fear and

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confusion fear of the of the space

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visitors

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cooperating with with hollywood

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there was a continuous stream of

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you know very popular films

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um about

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alien invasions

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you know

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and

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in the end um

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they started to uh you know the

580
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,520
contactees were ridiculed of course um

581
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there were scientific

582
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findings the first probes we're sending

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back data that show that

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there's no life possible on planets like

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mars and venus that the original

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contactee said there their visitors came

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from

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which of course is true in the sense of

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life as we know it

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but

591
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:36,400
that you know at the same time we now

592
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:39,919
know that according to astrophysics

593
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:41,279
astrophysics

594
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:44,480
calculations of the mass of the universe

595
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:45,279
it

596
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:49,600
um

597
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,080
it cannot account for 90

598
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,080
of the mass of the universe 90 is

599
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:56,000
invisible to us to our instruments to

600
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:57,200
our eyes

601
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:00,880
um so you know it just goes to show that

602
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,960
there may well be lots of things going

603
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,279
on even in our solar system that we

604
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:06,880
cannot see

605
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,840
um

606
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:09,360
so

607
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:10,720
in order to

608
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:15,520
to secure public support for the huge

609
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,360
amounts of money

610
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:19,840
public money spent on on the military

611
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,559
and

612
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:22,159
you know the further development of

613
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:23,679
nuclear weapons

614
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,799
um

615
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,679
it was decided to to

616
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:29,760
spread this information

617
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:33,200
um about the visitors and the contactees

618
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:36,480
and to the point that by the 19 by the

619
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,039
end of the 1950s more and more people

620
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,400
began to doubt their stories and

621
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:44,640
in order to you know to

622
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,840
er to finalize the final blow was you

623
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:49,520
know

624
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,760
the stories of abductions

625
00:26:00,500 --> 00:25:53,600
the

626
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,510
not abduct anybody abduction

627
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,679
[Music]

628
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:03,360
implies

629
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:05,200
doing something

630
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:06,960
against people's

631
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:09,919
or without people's consent

632
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,200
and

633
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,559
according to to the benjamin graham

634
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:17,520
esotericists but also a contactee in the

635
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,279
1950s himself

636
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,039
none of that happens with the true

637
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:24,559
visitors from space

638
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,600
people

639
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:27,919
i know i'm not trying to uh

640
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,799
to deny people's experience personal

641
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,360
experience but people who had

642
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:36,240
an abduction experience

643
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:38,880
or you know experience of having been

644
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,679
experimented on things like that

645
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:42,960
i believe

646
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,279
um are the victims of staged experiences

647
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,679
maybe under the influence of hypnosis or

648
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:52,559
drugs or or a combination

649
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,159
um and made to believe that

650
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:59,279
this was done to them by by

651
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,279
space visitors

652
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,240
or aliens to use the popular term

653
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:06,400
but um

654
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:09,440
true contact is also always based on

655
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,039
consent um and even even if people you

656
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:15,120
know after the fact

657
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,000
experience fear for the unknown

658
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,720
or ridicule from friends around them

659
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:22,480
when they share their story

660
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:23,520
um

661
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:26,960
the uh the visitors will never infringe

662
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:28,799
our free will

663
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,799
so um you know that's

664
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,559
it's a bit again you know there's so

665
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,960
many so many things

666
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:39,520
about the context in which this happened

667
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,520
um which i feel are important to to know

668
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,200
because

669
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,120
the people that i mentioned

670
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,200
the original contactees have been

671
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,840
ridiculed and because of the

672
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:54,000
disinformation and misinformation that

673
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:55,200
has been

674
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:56,799
planted

675
00:28:02,789 --> 00:27:59,520
since the second half of the 1950s

676
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,799
there's so much confusion about contact

677
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,880
with visitors from space

678
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,799
and and their intentions

679
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,880
that the original message and the

680
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:09,919
original

681
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,360
the real intentions have become clouded

682
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:15,600
if not obscured

683
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:21,669
gerard what i wanted to ask these these

684
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:23,279
different contactees and i don't know

685
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,039
how important is

686
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,440
as to the relevance

687
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:29,600
in comparison to the message but did

688
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,399
they ever say where they're from and if

689
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,480
there's any kind of um

690
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,399
i mean now many years later we know some

691
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,000
claim that there's some relations

692
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,919
between some of these visitors and the

693
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:42,240
human race uh would you be able to speak

694
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:44,960
a little bit about that

695
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:47,840
yeah the the original contactees uh

696
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,559
didn't hesitate to say that and they

697
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,039
they were even taken on craft sometimes

698
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,760
invited on craft to visit their planet

699
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:57,520
they said they were from

700
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,159
venus and mars and jupiter and saturn

701
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,240
mainly

702
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:04,000
and

703
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:10,310
the

704
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:14,320
campaign to

705
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,600
to ridicule the contactees uh caused

706
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,600
some of them even in the 1950s

707
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,080
especially the second half to

708
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:24,240
withhold that information and perhaps

709
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,039
they were even they were even

710
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,880
you know their contacts from space

711
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,200
suggested you know maybe not

712
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:33,360
not really important that

713
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,480
that you

714
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,320
say where we are from

715
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,559
um

716
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:40,960
you know and they came up with uh with

717
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:44,000
fantasy names like like clarion and and

718
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,919
other names um because it's not really

719
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:49,360
about

720
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:50,880
um

721
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,840
you know

722
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:53,279
being right

723
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,480
for the effort space visitors and the

724
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:58,720
importance is the fact that they're

725
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,960
trying to let us know that we are one

726
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:01,919
human

727
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:06,559
and brothers and sisters of the same

728
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,840
human race who share the same planet

729
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:11,279
and

730
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:14,240
it's it's crucial for our survival

731
00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:15,279
that we

732
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,039
see that fact and acknowledge that

733
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:21,679
accept that fact and act on it you know

734
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:24,480
act on the on the um

735
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:27,279
the fact that science is now also

736
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:30,240
giving us that we are one intricately

737
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,440
connected and then what one person does

738
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:35,840
ripples throughout the planet through

739
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:38,799
you know in behavior and acts of

740
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:41,200
of our fellow fellow human beings

741
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:42,080
um

742
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,679
and and that's what is really what is

743
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:45,440
important not so much if you know

744
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:47,679
contacts are from from this planet

745
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,080
without planets but the original contact

746
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,919
is georgia damski

747
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:54,320
um truman bathroom

748
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,679
um

749
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,039
i believe

750
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,679
howard menger

751
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:01,760
bucknelson in any case

752
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,960
they they

753
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:04,559
flat out said no you know i was

754
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:06,320
contacted by someone from venus or

755
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:07,679
saturn or

756
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:11,590
so

757
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,960
um can i uh would it be

758
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,799
because sometimes you know we're open to

759
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,720
talk about which any of the books that

760
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,640
you have i know you and i talked about

761
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:22,159
it earlier but

762
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,159
maybe i might not have mentioned that to

763
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:26,720
the to the guests watching so that was

764
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,760
initially

765
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:30,000
when uh when i

766
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,840
received information about you and of

767
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:33,519
course me setting the side for four

768
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:36,399
years foolishly uh there was a picture

769
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,360
in them that was um i guess to be a

770
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,279
claim whether i think it was either a

771
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:43,039
recreation or a picture would you be

772
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,799
able maybe talk about that it was

773
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:46,799
claiming that it was um

774
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,480
taken i guess within this craft

775
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,880
uh yes i just changed my background to

776
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,960
to show one of these photographs these

777
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:56,880
are actual photographs

778
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:00,480
that have come forward through

779
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:02,960
an italian case of contacts also that

780
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,519
started in the in the 1950s it was a

781
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:07,360
case of mass contact

782
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,960
with uh

783
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:10,559
in the end over

784
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:13,440
100 italians

785
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:14,799
not so much with

786
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,760
people

787
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:17,600
from other planets

788
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:19,760
landing and inviting them on board but

789
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,559
with

790
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,240
people from other planets who were

791
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:24,320
living and working in underground bases

792
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,679
around italy

793
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:27,519
this has become known as the friendship

794
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:28,559
case

795
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,880
and many photographs and

796
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,320
and film

797
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,919
images

798
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,679
that we didn't have video cameras then

799
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:37,440
but

800
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:40,559
were taken by by the participants in

801
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:43,600
this friendship case or amazia caves in

802
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:45,679
italian

803
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:50,640
started in 1956 and in 1958 i believe

804
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:52,640
october 1958

805
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,080
one of these craft landed

806
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,880
somewhere along the coast in

807
00:33:02,710 --> 00:32:59,760
in

808
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,720
italy one of the craft of these these

809
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:04,559
space contacts

810
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:06,880
and two people were invited on board to

811
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:09,039
take photographs

812
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:12,080
and uh these were published in a book by

813
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:13,679
alberto perego

814
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:14,960
uh who

815
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,440
uh used to be a diplomat before the the

816
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,960
second world war

817
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:19,840
um

818
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:22,720
was retired after the end of war

819
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:25,760
and he was also

820
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:27,840
the main contact george adamski had set

821
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,720
up an international network of contacts

822
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,360
in various countries including japan and

823
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,760
italy and other european countries

824
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,960
mexico

825
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:38,880
and and

826
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,440
alberto porrego was his main contact in

827
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,600
italy

828
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:45,360
and

829
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,640
perego

830
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:49,120
obtained these photographs from

831
00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:51,519
the two people who were invited on board

832
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:52,640
the craft

833
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:55,279
and behind me now is

834
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:00,470
one of those photographs of the interior

835
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:03,600
of a flying saucer

836
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:04,799
and

837
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,600
they've been unknown for uh for many

838
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,839
years uh uh

839
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,760
because you know they were they only

840
00:34:16,349 --> 00:34:13,839
they only appeared in a book

841
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:16,359
uh i believe it was published in

842
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,280
1961 i'm not entirely sure now

843
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:20,800
um

844
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:24,480
in italian in italy and never outside

845
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,760
italy

846
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:27,599
until i use them

847
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:30,320
you know i found them and

848
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:32,960
i had them digitally

849
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:35,440
restored somewhat and enlarged to

850
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:37,919
include in my book here to help ufos and

851
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,950
in which i have a chapter that's called

852
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:44,639
inside the spaceships

853
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:48,560
as a tribute to george adamsky's

854
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,639
by the same title

855
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:52,960
and these uh yeah these photographs it

856
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,200
was a series of photographs sort of

857
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,440
going around the

858
00:35:02,710 --> 00:34:59,839
of course the round interior of of the

859
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,720
ship showing the different panels and

860
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:04,400
seats and things

861
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,710
gerard

862
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,800
what i wanted to

863
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,400
um

864
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,640
i guess i'm trying to decide which way

865
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:16,800
to to go regarding this one whether or

866
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:19,359
not we want to do you want to maybe go

867
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:20,960
more into these some of the details and

868
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,560
things you covered in your latest book

869
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:27,200
um yes could do certainly

870
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,000
um because i think it's also important

871
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:32,480
to point out that

872
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:33,440
the

873
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:42,800
is

874
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,280
and you know george adams's book inside

875
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:47,760
spaceships that i just mentioned is

876
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,000
is a prime example of that

877
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,320
um

878
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:53,680
is

879
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:58,160
teachings that have been conveyed to us

880
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:01,599
by our own human elder brothers you know

881
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:02,560
the

882
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:13,119
masters of wisdom who have

883
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:14,480
you know who

884
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,320
started out this

885
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,200
as humans just as just like us

886
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,119
but

887
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:23,359
have gone ahead of us on the path of

888
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:26,960
evolution back to the source and have

889
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,079
sort of completed that path here on

890
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,000
earth and become

891
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:34,720
masters over their lower nature and

892
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:38,160
masses over themselves and therefore are

893
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:41,680
now known as the masters of wisdom

894
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:42,560
their

895
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:49,990
is completely in line with with uh what

896
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:50,960
the

897
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,359
original contact is for us to to convey

898
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,280
to us except

899
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:57,520
through you know the efforts of madame

900
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,160
blavatsky in the late 19th century and

901
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,880
alice bailey in the first half of the

902
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:04,400
20th century

903
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,800
and benjamin cram in the second half of

904
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:09,119
first 20th century

905
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,560
we have

906
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:12,880
much more detailed

907
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:15,680
teachings volume upon volume of

908
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,880
teachings

909
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:18,640
you know ready for anyone who's

910
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,000
interested

911
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:22,640
in the in the true nature of life and

912
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,359
and

913
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:25,920
the meaning of life so to speak

914
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,880
um to uh you know to be picked up and

915
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:30,640
studied and

916
00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:32,960
more than studied you know to to be

917
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:35,920
practiced and to be put into practice

918
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:37,599
and

919
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,800
again to reconnect with our source

920
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,640
um so that

921
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,160
uh you know we may

922
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:47,599
uh grow in understanding of the true

923
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:51,280
nature of life the true facts of life

924
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:53,119
so

925
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,990
what i've done is

926
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:01,920
show how

927
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:04,960
the latest findings of systems science

928
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:07,119
and quantum science

929
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,510
conveyed

930
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:12,960
in the teachings

931
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:16,320
that have come through madame blavatsky

932
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:19,760
who first introduced the notion uh in to

933
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:21,920
the modern world of the evolution of

934
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,920
consciousness you know through the

935
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:25,440
kingdom in nature

936
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,640
um

937
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:28,560
the book i just mentioned that that i

938
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:31,599
was lent on my on my journey back from

939
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:34,160
india to amsterdam in uh there was a

940
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,310
is it could be seen as a

941
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:42,079
summary

942
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:43,440
almost

943
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:47,040
very concise but uh very interesting and

944
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,960
nonetheless of how

945
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,520
it was called mind in that book but

946
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:55,440
consciousness really

947
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:57,920
can be found even in the mineral kingdom

948
00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,920
it can be found in the vegetable and the

949
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:02,160
animal theme and of course in human

950
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:05,599
kingdom it becomes self-consciousness

951
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,800
and in each of these subsequent kingdoms

952
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,200
successive kingdoms

953
00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:13,680
if we find consciousness or awareness of

954
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:14,080
mind

955
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:15,599
[Music]

956
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:17,200
somewhat expanded

957
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:18,960
and it expands

958
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:19,760
the

959
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,760
elements

960
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:27,680
that make up that

961
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,630
the

962
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:37,430
as i as i said system science especially

963
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:38,400
through

964
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:43,359
laszlo very famous

965
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,400
brilliant scientist hungarian born

966
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:48,160
but has been living in italy for for

967
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:49,359
many years

968
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:52,800
founder of the club of budapest

969
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:53,599
he

970
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:58,160
systems evolve

971
00:40:02,550 --> 00:39:59,359
as

972
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:02,560
clusters of vibration in an ocean of

973
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,440
possibilities in ocean in which you know

974
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:07,359
each each

975
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:10,800
composing element is a is a is a bundle

976
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:13,839
of of energy a cluster of vibrations

977
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:16,880
and george adamsky described

978
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,599
almost in exactly the same words um the

979
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:21,680
nature of life and consciousness in his

980
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,000
very first book the invisible ocean in

981
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,560
1932 i mean that's

982
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:28,720
at the very least you know that's that's

983
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,800
uh astounding

984
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:33,040
and similarly

985
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:34,960
that whole notion of the evolution of

986
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:38,319
consciousness and the and the really the

987
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,000
non-existence of

988
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:44,720
building blocks of matter

989
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,599
that quantum science now tells us you

990
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,119
know is

991
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:51,280
is

992
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:56,880
look really look into the nature of

993
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,000
matter

994
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:00,079
science doesn't find building blocks of

995
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,200
matter you know because matter or atoms

996
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:05,200
are infinitely

997
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:08,720
divisible can be divided infinitively

998
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,030
and madame blavatsky said the same thing

999
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:17,280
already in a book in the secret doctrine

1000
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,079
in 1888 so these things that science is

1001
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:23,280
now finding um were already known and

1002
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,960
and expressed in the in the wisdom

1003
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:26,560
teachings

1004
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:28,079
um

1005
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,599
and that's what i've

1006
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,480
brought together in in pioneers of

1007
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,280
oneness shown i'm showing the

1008
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:41,670
the corroborations and the similarities

1009
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:45,440
and and on top of that i present

1010
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:46,640
the same

1011
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:48,319
information from the accounts and

1012
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:51,760
sometimes a bit more um from the

1013
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:54,880
accounts of the uh the contactees uh to

1014
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:57,040
show us you know that show us the way

1015
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,640
forward as uh in terms of solving our

1016
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:02,880
problems you know we are beset worlded

1017
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:05,359
with setback problems covet now the

1018
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:06,480
pandemic

1019
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:07,280
is

1020
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:12,870
symptom you know it's not the cause of

1021
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:15,359
problems it's a symptom of our lost

1022
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:18,960
connection with with uh not only with

1023
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:21,680
nature and our destruction of nature and

1024
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:22,400
our

1025
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:23,280
um

1026
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:24,800
relentless

1027
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:28,480
pillaging of of the natural resources of

1028
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,240
our planet but also of

1029
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:35,040
destruction and the wasteful

1030
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:38,240
over consumption and pollution of our

1031
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:46,150
and you know the the contactees the

1032
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:48,800
message from from the from the from

1033
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,960
space from the space brothers

1034
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,319
um

1035
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,720
has been you know that we are

1036
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,640
interconnected that

1037
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,480
only when we work together can we

1038
00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:00,240
overcome our problems

1039
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,280
um

1040
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:03,599
and the same message has come especially

1041
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:06,319
through benjamin graham

1042
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:07,280
from

1043
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:09,520
when he started this mission in 1974

1044
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,480
until his death in 2016

1045
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,760
that

1046
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,880
you know there's

1047
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,240
more than enough

1048
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:19,200
to go around the planet for everyone

1049
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:20,720
we

1050
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:23,920
for no one

1051
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:26,960
to go hungry we have enough natural

1052
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,720
resources for everyone to be clothed and

1053
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:32,000
and housed

1054
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:33,680
and educated

1055
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:36,240
and given uh proper health care and

1056
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:37,119
senate

1057
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,319
sanitary uh um

1058
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:42,240
conveniences etc

1059
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,119
um

1060
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,200
so that you know we could eradicate

1061
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,440
hunger and poverty and and

1062
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:49,040
unnecessary illness

1063
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,880
um if only

1064
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:51,920
we would

1065
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:54,800
realize that we are one human family and

1066
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:57,839
we need to share the bounty of this

1067
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,200
planet equally and equitably

1068
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:04,079
so that everyone every man woman and

1069
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:08,640
child may live a decent human life

1070
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,200
and of course in our current systems our

1071
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:13,280
current such structures

1072
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,839
with that are based on competition

1073
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,880
and

1074
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,480
separativeness

1075
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:20,640
that's not possible because we are now

1076
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:24,079
you know going after the most profit and

1077
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,960
and

1078
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,720
greatest wealth

1079
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:29,040
each individual

1080
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,480
and this is

1081
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:32,000
it's destroying

1082
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,560
and our civilization

1083
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,560
um and

1084
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,240
of course

1085
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,560
you know we need to realize

1086
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:49,359
humanity the world the planet the solar

1087
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,000
system we're at the end of

1088
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:54,079
a

1089
00:45:01,109 --> 00:45:00,240
um

1090
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:01,119
you know

1091
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:01,920
life

1092
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:05,119
goes in cycles involves in cycles and we

1093
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,560
have come to the end of the cycle of of

1094
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,240
pisces the

1095
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,440
age of pisces that was inaugurated

1096
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:15,520
2000 years ago

1097
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,319
by with the teaching coming through

1098
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:20,400
jesus

1099
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,880
religion necessarily

1100
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,400
the christian religion

1101
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:29,040
evolved out of developed out of

1102
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,920
his teaching and what people did with it

1103
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:33,599
uh but his teaching was basically the

1104
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:34,400
same

1105
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:35,520
as

1106
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,079
uh teaching

1107
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:42,560
by a major figure

1108
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,910
and all the other

1109
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,839
names that now

1110
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,319
still remain with us through mythology

1111
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,160
and legends

1112
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:58,880
but all these messages these teachings

1113
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:02,000
really relate to how we may reconnect

1114
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,280
with our source our divine source

1115
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:06,800
and

1116
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,800
having come at the end of the age of

1117
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:11,040
pisces in which

1118
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:12,240
humanity

1119
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,599
has learned

1120
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:16,000
has acquired the

1121
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,160
qualities of individuality and idealism

1122
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:22,480
the structures

1123
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:23,839
in which we live

1124
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,640
are

1125
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:27,040
imbued with these qualities and we see

1126
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:30,319
that in extreme competition and extreme

1127
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,760
idealism

1128
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:33,599
to the point where people are willing to

1129
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,670
but at the same time the solar system

1130
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:40,960
has moved

1131
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:43,760
away from the constellation of pisces

1132
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:46,000
from which the energies have

1133
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,359
come

1134
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,079
in the past 2000 years

1135
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,160
to which we have responded by building

1136
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,720
the structures as we know them now

1137
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:57,440
and we are now in alignment with the age

1138
00:47:04,790 --> 00:46:58,960
of aquarius

1139
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:06,870
oneness

1140
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:09,440
our structures are not built

1141
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,960
to manifest these these new qualities so

1142
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:14,480
we see them crumbling you know our

1143
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,880
political system our science our

1144
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:18,560
mainstream signs our

1145
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:19,440
um

1146
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,640
our economy our financial system all of

1147
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:24,720
them are really not functioning anymore

1148
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:26,480
they're propped up you know they you

1149
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,240
know they're keeping up the appearances

1150
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,480
of it functioning or else all hell will

1151
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,960
break loose or so fear the

1152
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,079
the

1153
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:36,480
um

1154
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:38,960
and of course there's plenty of people

1155
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,200
in economic power who

1156
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:42,800
don't like to see

1157
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,960
their wealth diminishing or their power

1158
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,000
lessened

1159
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:49,839
um but

1160
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,559
the structures

1161
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,880
are crumbling you know they are they are

1162
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:56,800
giving way to

1163
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:57,839
the new

1164
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,160
powerful energies of oneness and

1165
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,040
synthesis and we see and i show that

1166
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:05,119
also in my book we see

1167
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:08,400
groundswell of people realizing

1168
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:11,280
their oneness not only oneness with

1169
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,119
the human rest of the human race but

1170
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:16,079
also with the planet as the larger

1171
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:17,520
organism

1172
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:20,559
and although on the outside

1173
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:26,470
on the

1174
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,640
inside

1175
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:31,119
behind the scenes what is not reported

1176
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:32,960
in the media because the media don't see

1177
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,599
it

1178
00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:35,520
except perhaps this morning in the in

1179
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,599
the guardian newspaper in

1180
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,359
the english newspaper

1181
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,599
i read an interesting report

1182
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,200
stating that

1183
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,880
you know the world is really not as

1184
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:46,240
divided as

1185
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,119
as

1186
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,359
appearances have us believe

1187
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:51,119
um so

1188
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:52,079
and

1189
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,069
for instance one of the one of the

1190
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:00,079
things that i that i

1191
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:03,599
use in my book as an example to prove to

1192
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:04,400
show

1193
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:07,119
how humanity is growing in its awareness

1194
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:08,880
of its oneness

1195
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,200
um are the social movements you know it

1196
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:15,670
people

1197
00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:19,119
organizing for labor rights and and we

1198
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:20,070
had

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00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,440
[Music]

1200
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,520
movements for women's rights women's

1201
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,240
voting rights children's rights

1202
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,040
ending in civil rights and human rights

1203
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:30,960
the universal declaration of human

1204
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:33,200
rights is like a crescendo of this

1205
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,880
awareness that

1206
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,240
we can only

1207
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:38,559
um you know we are all in it together

1208
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,319
and together we stand or or

1209
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:44,559
separately we fall

1210
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,480
so

1211
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:48,240
as a

1212
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:53,359
growing sense of oneness

1213
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,559
we see

1214
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:56,160
other forces

1215
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:57,520
who are

1216
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:58,480
bound

1217
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,520
to

1218
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:02,800
lose the power that they have currently

1219
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:05,440
over our structures and over large parts

1220
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,640
of humanity

1221
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:07,839
um

1222
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:08,960
they have

1223
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,160
only through market forces competition

1224
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:18,720
can we have a good life which is

1225
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:21,359
nonsense because millions and millions

1226
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,839
of people especially since nuclear

1227
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:25,119
organization

1228
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:27,520
have died unnecessarily

1229
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:30,559
you know of malnutrition of starvation

1230
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:31,760
just because

1231
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:35,200
we need money to buy food to

1232
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:36,160
to

1233
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,559
care and while on the other planets

1234
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,000
in in

1235
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,880
in our solar system mars and venus

1236
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:48,000
um

1237
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:51,200
everything belongs to

1238
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:55,359
to the human race on that planet

1239
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:57,680
and everything is available for free so

1240
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,119
that everybody

1241
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:00,880
is able to

1242
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:03,839
to develop their talents to grow and

1243
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:06,880
contribute their talents

1244
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,680
to

1245
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,359
the development

1246
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:12,319
of of civilization

1247
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,240
that's why their civilizations are so

1248
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,000
far ahead of ours

1249
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:18,319
so you know that's uh

1250
00:51:21,130 --> 00:51:19,280
that's

1251
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:21,140
really the um

1252
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,960
[Music]

1253
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:24,960
yeah the story i'm

1254
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,680
i'm telling based on science based on

1255
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,359
the corroborations of science with the

1256
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:31,599
asian wisdom teachings and the accounts

1257
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:34,480
of the contactees in my in my latest

1258
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:36,319
book

1259
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,599
gerard um

1260
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,760
about excuse me

1261
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:41,200
jordan in about 10 minutes we'll be

1262
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:43,599
coming up on the one hour mark i wanted

1263
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:46,319
to ask uh there was one one question i

1264
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:49,200
wanted to ask you and then go into some

1265
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:51,839
q a would that be okay with you

1266
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,040
yes that's fine okay so uh right now we

1267
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:57,599
have alia waiting in telegram i will get

1268
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,480
to you as soon as gerardus um uh

1269
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:02,240
answered this one question and there's a

1270
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:04,960
few in the chat as well so for those in

1271
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,280
chat and for those that are new if you

1272
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:09,359
can please do me a favor and put three

1273
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:12,880
asterisks be three asterisk asterix says

1274
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,559
i can speak today

1275
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:16,800
before your question so it pops out at

1276
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:18,880
me easier and then i know to convey to

1277
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,920
gerard and um that's yep that's

1278
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:23,359
regarding any kind of chat whether

1279
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:26,559
you're in in youtube or twitch

1280
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,920
and um alio already had raised uh raised

1281
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,240
the hand in telegram which is exactly

1282
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,880
what i need to add into my queue so the

1283
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:36,720
question i have for you and i apologize

1284
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:39,280
if i'm jumping around different subjects

1285
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:43,280
um to i guess to conclude regarding this

1286
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:44,960
mention that that you had in some of the

1287
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:46,800
text that was sent to me

1288
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,520
that i called the emergence of maitreya

1289
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,119
and if you could go maybe a little bit

1290
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,870
yes maitreya is the personal name

1291
00:53:02,309 --> 00:52:58,720
of the world teacher and the world

1292
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,319
teacher is the master of all the masters

1293
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,800
he is the eldest brother of humanity

1294
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,319
and

1295
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,079
traditionally

1296
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:10,880
every new age is

1297
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,599
is inaugurated by the world teacher a

1298
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:15,520
world teacher

1299
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:18,640
it's a function you know

1300
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,599
of course

1301
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:21,599
listeners will be familiar with the

1302
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,640
religious notions over the return of the

1303
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:26,319
respective teachers in these religions

1304
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,839
like the christians are waiting for the

1305
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:29,040
second coming

1306
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,040
and the jews are waiting for the messiah

1307
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:33,760
and buddhists expect the fifth buddha

1308
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:40,870
the hindus expect the 10th incarnation

1309
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:43,680
of vishnu or got the avatar in some

1310
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:45,440
sections of islam

1311
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:48,319
also expect the return of a teacher

1312
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,000
known as the 12th mahdi the imam

1313
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:53,920
but these are all the same you know the

1314
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:57,520
same notion of a new teacher coming to

1315
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:00,240
introduce to inaugurate a new age and so

1316
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:03,040
it has been throughout human history

1317
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,559
which actually according to the

1318
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,480
teachings goes back 18 and a half

1319
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,480
million years on this planet

1320
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:09,920
and the names i mentioned earlier

1321
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,069
hercules hermes and all these

1322
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:18,960
uh sometimes now mythological

1323
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:20,240
figures

1324
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,680
were at one time the world teacher even

1325
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:25,920
if you know at certain times for

1326
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:28,960
instance time of buddha of jesus

1327
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:30,800
the world was not quite

1328
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:32,240
as

1329
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,480
know modern media in modern transport

1330
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:40,799
but the teacher every every age is

1331
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,240
inaugurated by a teacher to

1332
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,040
inspire humanity and to to bring

1333
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:49,200
humanity

1334
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:52,720
a new aspect of reality

1335
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:54,880
and divinity

1336
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,280
because divinity is reality

1337
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:59,440
and

1338
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,119
maitreya

1339
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,359
is the personal name of the

1340
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,839
individual who is currently the world

1341
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:07,119
teacher

1342
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,000
2000 years ago he worked through

1343
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:12,160
his disciple jesus

1344
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:19,030
a disciple of a certain degree the third

1345
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:21,520
third initiate third degree initiate

1346
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:23,839
uh not himself a master yet

1347
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,000
um just like you know benjamin graham

1348
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,480
and ellis bailey and and uh madame

1349
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:31,040
blavatsky were disciples of masters of

1350
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,079
wisdom

1351
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:34,559
um jesus um

1352
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,000
um agreed to

1353
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,000
for his his body and his consciousness

1354
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:42,400
to be used by the world teacher at the

1355
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,240
time the christ in christian terms um

1356
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:48,559
to perform from

1357
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,440
the baptism in the river jordan until

1358
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:54,160
the crucifixion now that's when the

1359
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:56,000
christ worked through

1360
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:58,400
the body worked with jesus as his

1361
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,119
vehicle in the in the world and gave his

1362
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:03,119
teachings

1363
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:04,160
this time

1364
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,400
at the beginning of the aquarian age

1365
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:08,400
according to benjamin graham the world

1366
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:09,680
teacher

1367
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:12,160
has found a way to

1368
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,079
come back himself not through

1369
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:18,160
by overshadowing a disciple

1370
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:20,960
but he created a body of manifestation

1371
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,200
that will stay with us will be

1372
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,760
indestructible and stay with us in the

1373
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:28,079
world for the duration of the age of

1374
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:29,839
aquarius

1375
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,440
we will

1376
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:34,960
know for a fact

1377
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:37,200
the brotherhood not only the brotherhood

1378
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:38,720
of man on this planet but also our

1379
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:41,839
brotherhood with the people on other

1380
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:44,480
planets and there will be open contacts

1381
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:47,119
and we will see the spaceships coming in

1382
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:48,720
and landing and people coming now

1383
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:50,000
stepping out

1384
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,960
um

1385
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:52,000
and

1386
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,440
maitreya

1387
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:55,760
has according to benjamin cram has been

1388
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:58,640
in the world since 1970 he he didn't

1389
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:01,920
come from another planet but he

1390
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,319
just like all the masters of wisdom

1391
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,480
who withdrew from the world they they

1392
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:08,720
were the philosopher kings in

1393
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:10,319
in the you know in the atlantean

1394
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,839
civilizations until that until its final

1395
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:15,119
destruction

1396
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:17,200
which is when they withdrew to the

1397
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:19,920
mountain and desert areas of the world

1398
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:23,680
and left humanity to its own devices

1399
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,000
to come to this point where we are ready

1400
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:28,319
according to the masters to be

1401
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:31,119
reconnected with our elder brothers and

1402
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,680
and especially the reality of you know

1403
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,680
the spiritual nature of life the

1404
00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:37,839
evolution of consciousness

1405
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,839
um

1406
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,960
and excuse me

1407
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,640
um and

1408
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:44,000
um

1409
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,359
the uh

1410
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,000
the masters maitreya the world teacher

1411
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:50,240
is not coming alone

1412
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,119
um

1413
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:52,960
he has returned

1414
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:56,079
from his abode in the himalayas

1415
00:58:02,470 --> 00:57:59,599
in 97 july 1977 has been working behind

1416
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,480
the scenes in the world since then

1417
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,160
um

1418
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:06,000
you know he's he's

1419
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:07,760
in

1420
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:16,880
africa and

1421
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:19,040
transition from the apartheid government

1422
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:20,960
to the

1423
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:23,680
multicultural democracy

1424
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,040
that it is now

1425
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,040
far from perfect but there's no perfect

1426
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:29,760
democracy in the world at all anywhere

1427
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:36,230
a whole stretch better than

1428
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,240
than the apartheid regime

1429
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:39,680
um

1430
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:41,200
maitreya

1431
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:43,920
initiated inspired the

1432
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:47,920
establishment of the brand commission in

1433
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,670
that was set up by former german

1434
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,000
chancellor willy brown

1435
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:57,839
who was the first

1436
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:01,119
to find a political consensus

1437
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,240
about

1438
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:04,720
reforms in international trade

1439
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:07,599
and and international relations in order

1440
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:10,160
to reduce the tensions that

1441
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:11,680
arose

1442
00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:14,559
because of the uh unnecessary

1443
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,599
uh gap between rich and war north and

1444
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,680
south you know the wealth gap

1445
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:21,839
that wealth gap still exists but now it

1446
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,640
exists not just on a global level but

1447
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:26,720
within every country

1448
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:28,400
so maitreya has been working behind the

1449
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:31,119
scenes and continues to work

1450
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:33,280
and he's not coming along

1451
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:34,720
when he

1452
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,000
steps forward into the public eye

1453
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,400
but he will

1454
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:42,799
he will come initially with a group of

1455
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:44,240
14

1456
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,079
masters of wisdom there are

1457
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:50,559
many masses of wisdom on this planet who

1458
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:54,160
remain on this planet many people

1459
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:55,680
individuals who

1460
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,040
reach the

1461
01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:59,440
status or the the stage

1462
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:00,559
i should say

1463
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,680
of uh having mastered their lower nature

1464
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:06,240
and become a master of wisdom move on to

1465
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,670
you know the

1466
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:13,359
continued evolution

1467
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:14,400
but

1468
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:15,520
many

1469
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,480
remain behind stay behind to help

1470
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:19,760
inspire

1471
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:23,119
and mentor humanity in its in its

1472
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:25,119
evolution and of course we are now at a

1473
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:26,160
very

1474
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,480
junction in time in history

1475
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,640
and we need all the help we can get you

1476
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:36,000
know and

1477
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:36,880
the

1478
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:40,480
are here to help us

1479
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:43,839
um and they get help in turn

1480
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,359
from the space brothers from other

1481
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,520
planets similarly advanced beings from

1482
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,680
uh from other planets

1483
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:51,599
and to

1484
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:54,400
hopefully inspire humanity to pull

1485
01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:56,880
together and and realize our our

1486
01:01:02,150 --> 01:01:00,640
brotherhood and uh the fact that uh

1487
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:02,160
you know we all

1488
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,240
uh need to um we all deserve to survive

1489
01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:08,160
and and the only way we can survive is

1490
01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:09,119
by

1491
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:14,960
sharing the resources and the food that

1492
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:16,880
is available on this planet that the

1493
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,240
planet provides for us bountifully

1494
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:23,200
and by creating justice

1495
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:26,000
we will ensure and secure

1496
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:27,440
global peace

1497
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:29,440
and and prevent

1498
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:31,520
ourselves from from blowing up the the

1499
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:33,440
planet

1500
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:37,599
so that in a nutshell is you know the

1501
01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:39,440
information behind the

1502
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,799
emergence of maitreya and

1503
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:44,640
benjamin cram

1504
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:46,720
was asked to

1505
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:49,119
generate as much

1506
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,640
you know enthusiasm and interest

1507
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,480
initially so

1508
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:56,559
and and the first

1509
01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:58,400
um

1510
01:02:03,190 --> 01:02:00,640
possibility for for matreya to step

1511
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,200
forward into the public eye

1512
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:05,680
according to benjamin cram was in 1982

1513
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,799
in spring 1982. at the time the media

1514
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:10,559
didn't

1515
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:15,599
attention as as representatives of the

1516
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:18,079
attention of humanity as all

1517
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:20,799
to allow maitreya to come forward in a

1518
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:24,079
way that would have been effective

1519
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:25,119
um

1520
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:26,160
and

1521
01:02:31,349 --> 01:02:27,920
so maitreya has

1522
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,359
was forced to postpone his his emergence

1523
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,039
we are now seeing

1524
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:35,280
uh something that baby graham has been

1525
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:36,960
talking about was

1526
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:38,160
talked about

1527
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:40,240
dur for you know during this whole

1528
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:41,119
mission

1529
01:02:45,029 --> 01:02:43,200
um the

1530
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:45,039
the um

1531
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,480
um

1532
01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:48,400
yeah the the

1533
01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:50,400
collapse of our systems and our

1534
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:51,839
structures and

1535
01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:53,359
um

1536
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,079
as this happens and as our economies and

1537
01:03:02,150 --> 01:02:58,799
our financial systems will come to

1538
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:02,160
a standstill or or start to crumble to

1539
01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:03,680
the point where

1540
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:05,599
they don't no longer function

1541
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:06,880
um

1542
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:07,920
you know the

1543
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:10,559
the information is that that is when

1544
01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:12,000
maitreya and the masses will step

1545
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:13,359
forward

1546
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:13,810
and

1547
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:14,880
[Music]

1548
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,720
this day will be known as the day of

1549
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:19,039
declaration when maitreya will declare

1550
01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:22,000
who he really is

1551
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:23,839
and

1552
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:26,400
show that he comes to fulfill not only

1553
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:29,359
the expectations of all the religious

1554
01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:30,400
teachings

1555
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:34,319
but the hopes of all of humanity

1556
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:36,000
and as he

1557
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:37,680
explains

1558
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,680
as he gives his credentials in a

1559
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:41,520
worldwide broadcast

1560
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:45,760
he will also pour out the energy of love

1561
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:47,920
of which is the embodiment on this

1562
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:49,920
planet

1563
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:52,079
through a telepathic connection with all

1564
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,520
of humanity

1565
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:55,680
and benjamin graham has said that it

1566
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:58,480
will feel like maitreya embraces each

1567
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:01,039
and every one of us individually

1568
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:03,599
and we will have this tremendous sense

1569
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:05,200
of wonders

1570
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,119
and of course

1571
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:09,280
after it will be such a massive

1572
01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:11,440
spiritual experience that

1573
01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:12,640
and

1574
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:14,799
enough people will be inspired to start

1575
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:15,760
working

1576
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:18,400
for the salvation of the world and and

1577
01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:20,240
the healing of the planet

1578
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:22,640
and of course the uh

1579
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:24,720
you know the creation of justice and

1580
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:26,400
peace as well

1581
01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:28,480
so that's the

1582
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:29,680
that's the

1583
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:31,920
information the story behind

1584
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:34,480
uh benjamin creme's information which

1585
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:37,680
i've been involved with for for well

1586
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:38,559
over

1587
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:41,839
40 years to um you know to

1588
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:43,760
spread around the world where whatever

1589
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:46,880
people would do would uh hear it

1590
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,680
and of course in my books i've been

1591
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:51,520
sort of corroborating finding

1592
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,599
corroborations

1593
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:55,440
through the accounts of the contactees

1594
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:01,750
great thank you for that

1595
01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:04,319
um okay so let's go to

1596
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:07,280
to alio i hope he's been um

1597
01:05:11,349 --> 01:05:09,039
still there i'll do you are a meter to

1598
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:11,359
my end and mute yourself on yours and uh

1599
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:14,559
go ahead and ask a question

1600
01:05:19,029 --> 01:05:17,520
yes i uh i actually had

1601
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:19,039
just pushed the button kind of by

1602
01:05:21,829 --> 01:05:20,640
accident there clicking around to see

1603
01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:21,839
you know where where are the video

1604
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:23,280
buttons and where's everybody at and

1605
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:25,119
where's the chat and i i clicked that

1606
01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:26,720
and

1607
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,200
if you didn't mean to uh that's okay

1608
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:33,119
because we're actually live on youtube

1609
01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:36,240
and twitch this is just a voice only and

1610
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:38,400
to of course talk to the guest directly

1611
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:39,920
if you want to take your chance to ask a

1612
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,400
question now um go ahead otherwise i'll

1613
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:44,160
move on

1614
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:46,799
okay okay yeah i have i had a very

1615
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:48,640
divergent

1616
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:52,079
um perspective then he did i mean his

1617
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,160
perspective is amazing i mean as far as

1618
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:56,319
the evolution the direction of the

1619
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:57,760
planet and

1620
01:06:01,990 --> 01:05:59,520
our responsibility and what we need to

1621
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:02,000
do and all the everything in the the

1622
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:04,079
turning over the ages and the point that

1623
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:07,039
we're tipping point that we're at now

1624
01:06:11,029 --> 01:06:08,720
and but i didn't want to come in with a

1625
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:11,039
divergent conversation but i just wanted

1626
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:12,240
to

1627
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:18,559
may i ask the guest if he has studied

1628
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:28,069
um i've i've i know of of the of the

1629
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:31,520
title i've seen the title um pop up on

1630
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:32,400
the internet

1631
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:36,240
but i haven't studied them i must say

1632
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,319
okay so i can't say because it's not so

1633
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,799
much about it or how it relates to uh to

1634
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:43,280
the wisdom teachings

1635
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:45,359
right it it

1636
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:48,079
the messages from um the allies of

1637
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,599
humanity briefings relate also to the

1638
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:52,880
the evolution

1639
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:56,480
of our planet and what we need to become

1640
01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:58,640
real fast what we need to become

1641
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:01,599
individually and as a species

1642
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:04,480
to deal with the um not only our own

1643
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:07,200
challenges but the extraterrestrial

1644
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:08,799
engagement that

1645
01:07:12,630 --> 01:07:10,960
this age of extraterrestrial engagement

1646
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:12,640
that we're entering in

1647
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:15,200
in a very complex

1648
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:16,799
universe

1649
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:23,990
you back up the allies of humanity

1650
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:25,839
briefings and everything that you say

1651
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,440
about this the direction and the

1652
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:29,440
evolution and the spiritual connection

1653
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:31,760
and and or how manifesting that in the

1654
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,960
world and

1655
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:34,799
and yes we have to

1656
01:07:39,789 --> 01:07:36,960
evolve real quick

1657
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:39,799
but there's a perspective on the

1658
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:42,559
extraterrestrial presence that's

1659
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:45,920
that would really challenge um

1660
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:48,480
that the perspective that any of them

1661
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:49,200
are

1662
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:51,520
here at this time

1663
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:55,520
to bring us salvation ali i'm certain

1664
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:57,760
just this is mainly just to do some

1665
01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:00,559
quick q a um at least

1666
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:02,480
i got to answer your question i'm sorry

1667
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:05,359
maybe uh during open lines um you know

1668
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:07,680
please feel free to go down

1669
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,640
contact information i hope and and i you

1670
01:08:14,549 --> 01:08:12,799
answered my question you had not read

1671
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,559
the briefings from the allies of

1672
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,880
humanity and i hope i can have a further

1673
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:18,799
private conversation with you someday

1674
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:20,319
after you have

1675
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:23,279
well also aldo um uh i did an interview

1676
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,159
with um reid summers and so he

1677
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:28,400
extensively covered that too so i hope

1678
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:30,080
you get a chance to check it out

1679
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:32,000
well thank you so far and yeah hopefully

1680
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,480
we talk soon

1681
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,560
okay i have uh the other question is

1682
01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:39,199
from marie antone

1683
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:40,640
and um

1684
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:42,319
forgive me it's a bit lengthy so i'll

1685
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:43,040
just

1686
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:44,640
uh there's some names i'm not too

1687
01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:46,080
familiar with him

1688
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:48,080
basically starts off saying master

1689
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:49,520
hilarion

1690
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:52,480
starlight alex here and cosmic healing

1691
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:55,199
warns about beings from zeta reticuli

1692
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,080
the bernard bernard star

1693
01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,799
dragonis and regional

1694
01:09:08,059 --> 01:09:02,880
they have negative effects on

1695
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:09,269
[Music]

1696
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:12,010
i must say i hear

1697
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:13,279
[Music]

1698
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:15,759
the only name i i

1699
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:18,080
seem to recognize is the

1700
01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:21,120
something reticular and i know

1701
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,120
the only thing i can say in this

1702
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:25,199
connection is that

1703
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:27,920
i i'm aware that many people think that

1704
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:29,600
you know we are being contacted and

1705
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,719
visited by people from far away galaxies

1706
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:34,719
or star systems

1707
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:37,600
and according to my information based on

1708
01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:39,040
my research

1709
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:41,839
and this is you know the the contacts

1710
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:43,920
are really from within our own system

1711
01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,799
see the the universe of course

1712
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:49,120
is

1713
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:56,080
systems and clusters

1714
01:09:58,630 --> 01:09:57,040
uh

1715
01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:58,640
human beings are

1716
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:01,040
as far as we know the first clusters

1717
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:03,920
with self-consciousness and together we

1718
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:06,960
form like an organ in the living

1719
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:09,040
organism that is planet earth and planet

1720
01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:12,320
earth in turn is an organ in the living

1721
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:14,640
organism that is the solar system the

1722
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:16,719
solar system in turn is

1723
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:20,800
a part of a of the milky way or

1724
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:22,159
well first

1725
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:25,520
another larger system with sirius at its

1726
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:28,080
center and so forth and so forth

1727
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:32,310
for

1728
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,600
any

1729
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:35,199
teaching

1730
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:38,080
to be meaningful

1731
01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:40,960
it can't you know if

1732
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:42,239
of course there are people who believe

1733
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:44,000
that that's the case but

1734
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,880
i don't think it makes much sense

1735
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:48,000
you know

1736
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:49,600
if if god

1737
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,239
the creator the absolute

1738
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:54,560
were to

1739
01:11:01,669 --> 01:10:59,600
connect with me or you directly in as an

1740
01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:01,679
individual you know it would blow us to

1741
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:05,120
pieces because that consciousness is

1742
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:06,400
so

1743
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,480
far

1744
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:09,520
beyond

1745
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:13,120
what we can conceive even or what we can

1746
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,239
absorb

1747
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:16,800
that it wouldn't make any sense for

1748
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,400
uh such consciousness to uh

1749
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:22,400
and it wouldn't have

1750
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:25,440
if he would even register it you know so

1751
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,320
um things need to be stepped down and

1752
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:30,320
for any meaningful

1753
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:33,040
inspiration or information

1754
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:33,920
um

1755
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:37,040
to be conveyed

1756
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:38,320
i think the

1757
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:39,520
the source

1758
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:41,600
will be not too far will be just the

1759
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:44,239
next step up so in our case that will be

1760
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:46,880
the higher planets in our system i know

1761
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:49,280
many people have other beliefs and of

1762
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:50,960
course they are entitled to that but

1763
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:53,600
this is the information that i have and

1764
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:55,920
the other names that the questioner

1765
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,560
mentioned are really

1766
01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:00,159
there's really nothing i can say about

1767
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:02,320
that because i'm not familiar with them

1768
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,400
i'm sorry

1769
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,920
okay thank you for that

1770
01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:07,440
gerard um

1771
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:08,880
how many more questions could i ask you

1772
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:10,159
i'm trying to be respectful for your

1773
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:11,280
time if

1774
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:13,120
we have a few uh do you want me to do

1775
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,960
two more or what

1776
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:16,320
yes sure yes

1777
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,600
go ahead okay

1778
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:18,960
all right the next question is from

1779
01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:21,920
frank asking when matria or masters

1780
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:24,719
return will they be spirit man or

1781
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:27,280
angelic will they be as they were in the

1782
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:33,510
the masters

1783
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:34,320
at

1784
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:35,840
you know when when when you become a

1785
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,679
master of wisdom when you've

1786
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:40,080
uh completed the path of evolution on

1787
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:41,360
this planet

1788
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:42,320
through

1789
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:45,120
um you know the last stage of the path

1790
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:48,239
is called the path of initiation

1791
01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:50,800
and which is symbolized for us in in the

1792
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:52,239
new testament

1793
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,679
you know the

1794
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:56,080
there are five stages the first stage

1795
01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:58,560
the first initiation is symbolized by

1796
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:01,679
the birth of the christ child in the

1797
01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:04,239
mind the mansion

1798
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,320
and that's symbolic for the birth of

1799
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:08,640
christ consciousness in our heart or the

1800
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:10,560
reawakening of the christ consciousness

1801
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,760
in our heart

1802
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:13,920
spiritual hearts by the way

1803
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:15,760
the second stage the second initiation

1804
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:18,320
is symbolized by the baptism in the

1805
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:19,520
river jordan

1806
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:21,600
which

1807
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:22,560
is

1808
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:24,800
you know indication of the

1809
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:27,120
control of the emotional our emotional

1810
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:30,080
life the first initiation is

1811
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:32,400
control over our physical life

1812
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:34,159
the second the

1813
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:37,280
symbolized by river baptism

1814
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:40,560
over our emotional life the third stage

1815
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,800
is symbolized by the transfiguration on

1816
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:44,560
the mount

1817
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:47,520
and that symbolizes the control over our

1818
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:48,560
mental

1819
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:53,120
instrument

1820
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:55,120
the fourth initiation

1821
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:56,159
um

1822
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:58,800
when these vehicles are integrated

1823
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:01,520
physical emotional and mental you know

1824
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:03,840
we become the fully integrated

1825
01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:06,640
personality through which the

1826
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:09,199
our spiritual aspect our soul can

1827
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,239
function

1828
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:12,719
and we see that in great initiates in

1829
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:15,520
this world

1830
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,199
and

1831
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,600
the fourth initiation is symbolized by

1832
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:22,000
the crucifixion in the new testament

1833
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,120
which is when we give up all the lower

1834
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:27,280
bodies

1835
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:30,080
in order to release the soul

1836
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:31,840
from the physical

1837
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:33,120
um

1838
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,880
the physical

1839
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:36,719
uh confinements

1840
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:39,040
um and the fifth initiation is the

1841
01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:40,320
resurrection

1842
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,120
matter um and that is symbolized of

1843
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:47,760
course uh by the uh

1844
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:48,560
uh

1845
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:51,440
the resurrection of of the the dead body

1846
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,960
of jesus but and although he's physical

1847
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:56,719
um it's

1848
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:00,400
it's really to do with the uh the

1849
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:02,320
spirit conquering matter

1850
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:05,199
the masters when they

1851
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:07,199
once once you've taken the fifth

1852
01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:09,600
initiation and i don't speak

1853
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:12,159
from experience here this is based on

1854
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:13,920
the teachings that i've studied and the

1855
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,000
information from benjamin graham

1856
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:18,480
and when when the master

1857
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:20,560
when you become a master of wisdom

1858
01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:27,430
you no longer need to

1859
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:31,199
reincarnate to you know to continue your

1860
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:32,960
path on the

1861
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:34,560
your the path of evolution on this

1862
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,640
planet then you are really free from

1863
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:38,400
this planet but you can choose as i

1864
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:40,320
mentioned before you can choose to stay

1865
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,320
on this planet to help and inspire

1866
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:44,640
humanity

1867
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,440
and the way many monsters do that is by

1868
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:49,520
creating that they you know they

1869
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:52,080
continue to live on this planet in their

1870
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:54,239
etheric bodies they don't need a

1871
01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:56,239
physical body

1872
01:15:58,630 --> 01:15:57,280
but

1873
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:58,640
when masses

1874
01:16:02,630 --> 01:15:59,920
manifest

1875
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:02,640
in the world and many of them or several

1876
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:05,040
of them have you know we know

1877
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:06,480
the account of

1878
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:08,800
saint germain

1879
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:11,520
who was very well known in the in the

1880
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:14,800
european courts in the 17th century 18th

1881
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,280
century

1882
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:19,840
they create a body of manifestation they

1883
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:22,239
can bring together the the matter

1884
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,440
particles uh and all that together in

1885
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:27,520
the shape of a human human body with

1886
01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:29,360
which they you know they live in the

1887
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:31,679
world and you could meet one

1888
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:34,400
um and not know it's a master

1889
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:36,000
and of course they can also show

1890
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:38,560
themselves in an aspect that is uh

1891
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:40,640
undeniably of such a high spiritual

1892
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:43,520
nature that you know you will just uh

1893
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:45,360
fall on your knees in awe even though

1894
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:47,120
the masters

1895
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,679
are not known to

1896
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:51,120
to

1897
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:53,520
strive for that effect

1898
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:54,719
um

1899
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:56,800
so the masters

1900
01:17:01,750 --> 01:16:58,719
who are returning

1901
01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:01,760
they will have a body of manifestation

1902
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:03,600
just as

1903
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:07,120
maitreya who will have who has a unique

1904
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:09,120
body of manifestation because he has

1905
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:10,400
created it

1906
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,600
in such a way that it will last for 2500

1907
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:15,280
years more or less

1908
01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:19,360
and so i hope that answers the question

1909
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:20,960
great thank you for that as you were

1910
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:23,360
speaking i was looking over and

1911
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:27,440
majority of the chat is very um

1912
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:29,280
vivid and they're all talking to each

1913
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,600
other but there's entirety of three

1914
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,800
questions that i feel of very good ones

1915
01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:36,560
would it be okay if i just ask you those

1916
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:39,199
three and i promise that would be it

1917
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:41,120
uh yes if you can keep it those three

1918
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:44,080
then you're sure yes all right thank you

1919
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:48,320
uh this so first out of three says um

1920
01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:49,840
i don't know if this is english speaker

1921
01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:52,400
or just a misspelling says who joshua

1922
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:54,960
and has he heard of the sumerian tablets

1923
01:18:02,550 --> 01:17:57,120
explaining the jesus story

1924
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:05,110
i've heard of the sumerian tablets

1925
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:08,560
and the modern interpretation by

1926
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:10,080
what's his name again

1927
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,270
many people

1928
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:19,920
uh see that as the uh

1929
01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:22,080
as the uh

1930
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:25,120
the final word on you know the

1931
01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:27,120
creation of the world or the universe

1932
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,560
and and the reality of spaces for me

1933
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:32,880
sessions interpretation is just that an

1934
01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:34,239
interpretation

1935
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:37,840
um especially since he

1936
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:43,110
ignores or

1937
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:45,600
was not familiar with i'm not sure

1938
01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:46,560
the

1939
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:49,360
wisdom teachings that have come to us

1940
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:51,840
through madame blavatsky

1941
01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:54,960
so i do not i personally do not uh

1942
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:56,719
attach the same significance to the

1943
01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:58,480
sumerian tablets the other names were

1944
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:00,320
mentioned in the qui in the question i'm

1945
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:02,159
not familiar with i'm sorry

1946
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:03,520
okay

1947
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:05,920
then the second question is

1948
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:07,360
from

1949
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,280
b del fontaine

1950
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:11,840
asking gerard have you considered that

1951
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:14,560
darker extraterrestrials extra-stressful

1952
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:16,719
forces would be very capable of

1953
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:18,880
persuading people that they are part of

1954
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:21,199
our spiritual prophecies

1955
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:24,960
shouldn't we be more cautious

1956
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:26,880
uh yes um

1957
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:27,840
of course

1958
01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:30,080
it's uh it's a concern that i often hear

1959
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:32,719
when i speak of the benign nature of the

1960
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,640
space visitors

1961
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:36,800
and of course since we're talking about

1962
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:38,320
evolution and the evolution of

1963
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:39,520
consciousness

1964
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,320
it it goes without saying that

1965
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:44,800
besides the higher planets where life

1966
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:47,440
has evolved beyond the stage that we are

1967
01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:49,840
at on planet earth there are also

1968
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:52,960
planets where life has not

1969
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:56,400
evolved to the stage yet where we are at

1970
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,350
you know and where where motives may be

1971
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:03,360
darker than

1972
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:05,280
than

1973
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:08,400
the visitors that i've been speaking of

1974
01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:10,719
um but we must remember

1975
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:12,239
that

1976
01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:13,840
well i i

1977
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:15,600
my research has shown that there are

1978
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:18,239
three independent sources three sources

1979
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:21,679
who independently have stated that

1980
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:24,320
since the 1950s because we are now in

1981
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,400
this crucial stage in in our history and

1982
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:30,239
our evolution on this planet

1983
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:32,639
the uh

1984
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,480
the visitors from venus and mars

1985
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:35,600
especially

1986
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:38,480
have put around our planet a ring of

1987
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:39,600
protection

1988
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:42,159
this was first mentioned by wilbert

1989
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:45,040
smith the canadian contact team

1990
01:20:49,110 --> 01:20:47,679
in an article in 1958

1991
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,120
it was

1992
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:51,440
also

1993
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:52,800
stated by

1994
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:55,360
the american scientists who worked

1995
01:21:00,149 --> 01:20:57,360
alongside

1996
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:00,159
some extraterrestrial scientists in a

1997
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:03,040
lab in america michael wolff

1998
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:05,679
and it was also confirmed by by benjamin

1999
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:07,520
cram in his first book

2000
01:21:11,669 --> 01:21:08,880
um

2001
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:11,679
he called it a ring of light which keeps

2002
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:13,440
the

2003
01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:14,880
more

2004
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:15,760
uh

2005
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:18,000
you know the the less evolved

2006
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:18,880
um

2007
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:21,040
people from other planets who do have

2008
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:24,639
the capacity of uh interplanetary flight

2009
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,520
um

2010
01:21:30,629 --> 01:21:28,320
out of our system out of our world for

2011
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:30,639
the time being

2012
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,800
as we go through this very difficult

2013
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:34,800
transition from the age of pisces to the

2014
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:41,590
because you know we are we have enough

2015
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:43,120
to deal with

2016
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,040
you know it's not so much the darker

2017
01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:47,520
forces from other planets that we have

2018
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:49,199
to fear but

2019
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:52,480
the darker forces on our own planet that

2020
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:54,800
um

2021
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:58,800
try to to to keep us from uniting and

2022
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:01,520
from recognizing our oneness the the

2023
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:04,000
forces of materiality have a place

2024
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:05,760
according to the wisdom teachings in

2025
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:08,400
keeping the matter aspect of this planet

2026
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:09,360
intact

2027
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:12,560
any other planet but they should not

2028
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:15,120
you know that's the evolutionary arc of

2029
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,600
life but they should not spill over or

2030
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:19,120
when they do spill over onto the

2031
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:21,440
evolutionary arc they have this very

2032
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,960
negative effect

2033
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:24,400
which we now see

2034
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um you know trying to take advantage of

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01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,320
our um

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01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:32,800
yeah our our separatist tendencies our

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01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:35,440
materialist tendencies uh throughout the

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01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:36,400
world

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01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:37,440
and uh

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01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:40,159
you know the sooner we uh we manage to

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01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:41,760
overcome our our

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01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:45,360
separatism and and our divisions and our

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01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:47,920
competition and our conflicts uh the

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01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:50,320
easier it will be to move into the new

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01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,440
age and build a new civilization based

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01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:55,199
on justice and

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01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:00,070
thank you for that so the last question

2048
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:04,239
is from fab 22 asking if guatam guatama

2049
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:07,360
buddha prophecy that maitreya would

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01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:09,840
incarnate in 5 000 years

2051
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:13,440
why is there reports of him since 1970s

2052
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:15,520
thank you

2053
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:16,560
um

2054
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,719
yes the the prophecies

2055
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,480
of you know when

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01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:24,960
a certain teacher would return

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01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:27,120
differ you know even within buddhism you

2058
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:28,239
will find

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01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:30,800
different interpretations of the same

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01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:32,400
statements or

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01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,360
and

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01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:35,040
you know that that

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01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:36,800
um that is

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01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:39,199
inherent in in prophecies even the

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01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:40,639
masters

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01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:42,960
we have been told cannot make very

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01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:44,000
accurate

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01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:46,560
prophecies uh only give general

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01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,760
indications of time frames or windows of

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01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:51,280
opportunity

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01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:53,600
because it all depends on

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01:23:58,870 --> 01:23:56,480
on our readiness on our perceptive

2073
01:24:01,830 --> 01:23:58,880
perceptiveness

2074
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:01,840
how ready are we to respond to certain

2075
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:04,239
new energies and new ideas

2076
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:05,760
um and

2077
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:08,320
the same is true for the space visitors

2078
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:10,000
you know at one point

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01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:12,400
mystics

2080
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,639
took it upon themselves to declare that

2081
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:16,719
they were channeling

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01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:19,520
the information coming from space by

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01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:22,080
from discarnate beings

2084
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,280
um

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01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:25,920
making all kinds of beautiful prophecies

2086
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:26,719
um

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01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:27,600
but

2088
01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:30,400
it's it's not possible to to

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01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:32,880
put specific uh

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01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:36,320
dates or or you know numbers of years on

2091
01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:39,360
on prophecies it's all to do with cycles

2092
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:40,719
and

2093
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:49,280
the earliest

2094
01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:50,719
opportunity

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01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,719
the earliest possibility for maitreya to

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01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:54,159
step forward according to benjamin

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01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:56,159
graham and his master was the spring of

2098
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:00,080
1982 humanity appeared not ready so

2099
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:02,960
the emergence was postponed

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01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:06,000
um there have been several other

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01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:08,080
opportunities

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01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:11,760
at which time humanity's attention was

2103
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:13,600
diverted

2104
01:25:18,870 --> 01:25:15,840
for instance one time i remember by the

2105
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,880
falkland war in argentina i don't

2106
01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:20,480
remember what year that was exactly i

2107
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:22,639
think it was 1988 or something

2108
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:27,040
um you know so the masters depend on our

2109
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:28,639
readiness

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01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:30,000
because

2111
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:33,679
when the world teacher returns to this

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01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:37,199
world that is so full of distractions

2113
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:39,520
with instant

2114
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:42,560
gratification or instagramification

2115
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:44,159
um

2116
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:45,520
you know

2117
01:25:50,470 --> 01:25:47,280
there

2118
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:50,480
it it would it would undermine the

2119
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:52,840
effectiveness

2120
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:56,080
of um the event because it will be a

2121
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:58,000
historical event of course when the

2122
01:26:01,030 --> 01:26:00,080
world teacher for a new age steps

2123
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,040
forward

2124
01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:03,600
and my trainer masters need to

2125
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:06,639
uh need to be certain that humanity is

2126
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:08,560
at its most receptive

2127
01:26:12,310 --> 01:26:11,360
for the best possible

2128
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,320
um

2129
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,560
result from their

2130
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:16,239
you know the energies and the their

2131
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,560
efforts um the

2132
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:20,320
the uh

2133
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:22,960
the aim is you know the maitreya and the

2134
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:25,520
masters are not coming to

2135
01:26:30,229 --> 01:26:27,520
save the world for us

2136
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:30,239
uh the space brothers are not here to

2137
01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:32,000
bring salvation

2138
01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:33,520
we can only

2139
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,080
um

2140
01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:39,120
only

2141
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:42,000
um save ourselves

2142
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:43,920
but by treya

2143
01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:46,000
and his energies the masters and space

2144
01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:48,639
builders they are here to

2145
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:52,239
inspire us with hope and and and vision

2146
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:53,600
for the future

2147
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:54,880
um

2148
01:27:00,070 --> 01:26:56,960
and with the

2149
01:27:01,270 --> 01:27:00,080
um the transference of the energies that

2150
01:27:02,830 --> 01:27:01,280
they bring

2151
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:02,840
they

2152
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:06,560
will uh set us into action and so

2153
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,440
therefore they need humanity at its

2154
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:11,440
highest receptivity

2155
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,840
for this event to take place and when

2156
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:15,280
that will take place

2157
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:16,840
uh you know

2158
01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:18,960
maitreya we have we were told by

2159
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:22,239
benjamin graham's master uh weighs the

2160
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:25,840
you know the the situation from from

2161
01:27:29,450 --> 01:27:28,960
moment to moment and uh

2162
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:29,460
um

2163
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:30,639
[Music]

2164
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:32,639
if he's the eldest brother if indeed he

2165
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:34,239
is the eldest brother of humanity if

2166
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:35,840
indeed he is

2167
01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:36,800
the

2168
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:40,560
individual who has come out of evolved

2169
01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:43,679
out of the human kingdom who has now

2170
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:45,679
reached the highest

2171
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,760
level of consciousness that is

2172
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:50,000
attainable on this planet then we must

2173
01:27:55,189 --> 01:27:52,960
trust his his judgments in

2174
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:55,199
the time that he sets for his for his

2175
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:57,600
emergence

2176
01:28:01,350 --> 01:27:59,440
all right thank you for that and thank

2177
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:01,360
you so much for taking the time to talk

2178
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:02,800
to me i know it's uh

2179
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,440
getting updated in time very well

2180
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:07,920
where you are so just i guess as a

2181
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:09,840
conclusion if you could uh just leave

2182
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:11,760
any websites or places where people

2183
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:14,320
could uh find out more about you as i

2184
01:28:18,430 --> 01:28:17,040
mentioned earlier the link for the

2185
01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:18,440
uh

2186
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:20,320
bgapublications.nl is in the description

2187
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:22,400
below and if there's anything else you'd

2188
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:24,960
like to add please do

2189
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:26,159
yes that's the

2190
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:29,440
link for for my website where i

2191
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:32,000
keep track of all my publications

2192
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:35,199
articles and books and websites

2193
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:37,120
i would like to point out

2194
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:39,760
[Music]

2195
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:41,520
people if people have heard of george

2196
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,000
adamski and they've heard that he was a

2197
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:46,800
con man or a fraud then i would like to

2198
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,800
invite them to visit my website the

2199
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:50,719
adamski case the

2200
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:53,520
adamski dash case.nl

2201
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:56,000
where i've collected all the facts

2202
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:58,080
placed them in context so that people

2203
01:29:02,790 --> 01:29:00,880
can see for themselves that

2204
01:29:05,669 --> 01:29:02,800
almost everything

2205
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:05,679
that detractors say about the damski has

2206
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:08,719
been misconstrued or

2207
01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:11,520
you know conflated with with things that

2208
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,120
were not were not correct um so there's

2209
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:17,679
there's the online monument that i've

2210
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:20,480
erected for for george adamski

2211
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:21,360
um

2212
01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:26,639
bgapublications.com people will find

2213
01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:29,360
the titles to my books which are all

2214
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:31,600
available online from amazon and barnes

2215
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:33,520
and noble and all the other online

2216
01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:34,719
outlets

2217
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:35,840
um

2218
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:37,600
and my latest book is pioneers of

2219
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:39,760
oneness which

2220
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:40,960
yeah

2221
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:43,840
which brings together the uh

2222
01:29:48,149 --> 01:29:46,639
the asia's wisdom teachings and the uh

2223
01:29:52,149 --> 01:29:48,159
the latest

2224
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:52,159
findings from 21st century science

2225
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:55,280
and underpins really the accounts of the

2226
01:30:01,990 --> 01:29:58,560
compactees of the 1950s especially

2227
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:02,000
so i would recommend that but you know

2228
01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:03,360
that's me

2229
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:05,920
all right well gerard thank you again um

2230
01:30:10,070 --> 01:30:08,000
everyone else watching i appreciate you

2231
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:10,080
joining us today uh next week on

2232
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:11,920
wednesdays at 7 00 p.m central time

2233
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:14,000
we're gonna have open lines we'll give

2234
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:15,840
you an opportunity to call in and share

2235
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:18,560
some of your stories uh gerard a

2236
01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:20,080
pleasure i hope we can do this again

2237
01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:24,080
sometime and uh yeah until next time

2238
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:25,520
great thank you so much for having me

2239
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,760
out and i'm certainly willing to to join

2240
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:29,520
you again whenever you uh you have a